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  • Mechanical F-19 Brakes On Bc65

    Guys, I don't want hyd. brakes unles it's the ONLY way to go. I
    think that people misunderstand what I want because of the
    thread my posts are in.
    What I am trying to find is ANY information on installing the
    mechanical shoe brakes that Cleavland used to make for the
    F-19. The are the same brakes that are used on the 7-AC Champs. Not overly powerful, I don't care if they will not hold the
    plane on run up, I can do a mag check on the run. I just want,
    (NEED) them for differential braking in cross winds on back country strips. The heel brake pedels will stay stock.
    Sabrina

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    Sabrina I have the Cleavland shoe brakes on my 46 bc12d i run 26' tundra tires when im on wheels. They work alot better than the shin brakes. they hold fine for the run up and i have had the tail come up when i am light on pavement. Ill try to find the part numbers for you. not shure what all is involved. they were on the plane when i got it. but i have bought some parts and shoes so i think you can still get them.
    Lance Wasilla AK
    http://www.tcguideservice.com/index.html

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    • #3
      Hi Sabrina
      I've never heard of a Taylorcraft brake camming over and locking a wheel up------- your right brake must have some extreme wear! I think I have a box of brake parts in my hanger....if there is a wishbone in the box I would be happy to send it to you so you can get your plane in the air. I'll look tomorrow.
      You might want to examine all of the brake components to make sure there's not something else worn and causing problems. I think you will find that the stock Taylorcraft brake is all you need. My brother. sister and I all flew my father's Taylorcraft when we were teenagers and I'm sure we were hard on the brakes, and we never had any problems other than wearing the linings out. I'm on my second Tcraft...had it for almost 25 years and other than replacing the linings, and keeping them adjusted, the brakes have never been a problem.

      Garry Crookham
      N5112M
      Tulsa

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      • #4
        Mechanical brakes on my bc65

        I am horrible for names,sorry, To the guy in Ak. with the 1946
        I will be gratefull for anything you find out for me. To the ex-teenager in tulsa, I will look REAL close on Saturday, and see what I can find. One of the pilots here told me that the plane was covered without the right side fairlead being put in. I hope not, the fabric has only been in the sun for 10 hours since it was put
        on.
        My heartfelt thanks to both of you for trying to help me out. I have a question for the members, if it turns out that the fairlead IS missing, am I going to have to cut brand new fabric away from the belly to put one on< And is a fairlead even available?
        Sabrina

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        • #5
          What fairlead? Something to do with the brakes? Or a different subject? If it's a fuselage fairlead, they van be replaced without re-covering; the aft ones require some help from a small person to install.
          Rob

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          • #6
            mechanical brakes on F-19

            Mr. Ambassador (et al),
            One of the old timers at the airport told me that there is
            supposed to be a long curved fairlead that runs from just
            behind the right brake pedal to the lower longeron by the top
            of the right gear leg. He said if it's not there, the brake on
            that wheel will never work right. Is he correct?
            Sabrina

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            • #7
              I have never seen one, but perhaps they were fitted to the F19. Earlier models fitted with brakes used two pulleys per side (one immediately aft of the pedal and one on the lower longeron adjacent to the gear leg).

              Perhaps others can shed some light?

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              • #8
                The fairlead was only on some of the pre-war aircraft- later models went to the pulley set-up. Make sure you look for the pulleys!
                Eric Minnis
                Bully Aeroplane Works and Airshows
                www.bullyaero.com
                Clipwing Tcraft x3


                Flying is easy- to go up you pull back, to go down you pull back a little farther.

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                • #9
                  Get some little-bitty steel brake line tubing ($14/10ft @ AutoZone)
                  Bend it in a graceful curve from a clamp under the brake pedal to near the pulley attached to the longeron.
                  Short piece for the left brake, longer for the right.

                  Brake cable threads thru this, over the pulley, down the gear leg to the small bellcrank that pulls the rod, that pulls the cam that pushes the shoes that contact the drum.

                  Speaking of the cam! Is this what is is moving too far? Would it be that the shoes are not adjusted close enough to the drum that it allows the cam to move too far? Too much pedal movement?

                  I have replaced brake shoes on my '41 T-craft, but in 300 hrs on my '46 model I have yet to get the linings to show enough wear. They still hold for full power runup.

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                  • #10
                    brake cable fairlead

                    On my 1941 there are no pulleys on the brakes at all. The fair lead changes the direction of the cable pull twice, once to turn it left or right and with a slight downward turn at the end to point at the brakes! I thought about putting in pulleys but why mess with simplicity. kiss. I'll try to take a digital picture and post it today.
                    Bill
                    95% done 75% left to do

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                    • #11
                      This is the same configuration on a 41 BC-65 I have waiting for restoration. Maybe after the TG-6 is finished. Dick
                      TF #10

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