Hdy. Brakes

[Dick Smith]

cabane/maule shock pix

Rob, here is a pix of an F-19 with the cabane/shock setup.
Dick

[Dick Smith]

cabane/maule shock

Rob, sideview of above-mentioned plane. Dick

[d.a.]

Hello group, just joined today. My son and I are hoping to buy a Tcraft before this Summer. I too am interested in Hyd brakes. Reason being is, we want to run big tires. Larger tires really take the wind out of the sails of any brakes. Fact is, Supercubs that already have double puck Cleveland brakes end up going to brake boosters to get effective braking with tires up to 31". 31" tires on a Tcraft with the original shoe brake would be the same thing as no brakes.

Dick,
Thanks for posting the picture of the Yellow Tcraft. I remember seeing that ship in front of a house on the big runway at Port Alsworth in 2000. That Cub style gear and Cub FWF looks really good on it.
Dave

[d.a.]

Hello group, just joined today. My son and I are hoping to buy a Tcraft before this Summer. I too am interested in Hyd brakes. Reason being is, we want to run big tires. Larger tires really take the wind out of the sails of any brakes. Fact is, Supercubs that already have double puck Cleveland brakes end up going to brake boosters to get effective braking with tires up to 31". 31" tires on a Tcraft with the original shoe brake would be the same thing as no brakes.

Dick,
Thanks for posting the picture of the Yellow Tcraft. I remember seeing that ship in front of a house on the big runway at Port Alsworth in 2000. That Cub style gear and Cub FWF looks really good on it.
Dave

[CajunGrasshoper]

Vic & Tim

Lee here from New Iberia. Wanted to remind you two plus anyone else that may be interested . First Sunday of each month , Pancake breakfast in Jeanerette LA.

You'll try and come

Lee

[Dan Mahalak]

N33942 has been converted to the approach forrest mentions ealier. The pedals are from a 152. I find that the hyd. brakes cannot hold the aircraft for a full static runup. Maybe they need more attention. The major problem with the 152 pedals, (toe) is that the bar, not sure what it is called, that connects the universal joints from the yoke underneath, WILL pinch your toes while on the brakes, in any nose down attitude slightly below nuetral. This is only during taxi of course.

[stormman]

HYD Brakes

for those who want them , GET them you won't be sorry except for the WORK required, the stc holder is at the bottom of this post for those that block me out

I LOVE , NEED , REQUIRE, Can NOT live Without, And also have Hyd Brakes. It was a deciding factor when i purchased
Why? Besides stopping Ground loops that the simms can not do.
So i can drag it in behind the power curve, Cut the power, Slam on the Brakes and STOP before i run out of runway and drop off the end of a cliff . Sound familar Baldy?. Some of us think we are Bush Pilots or act that way anyhow.
Also Get ready to hit the gas to blow the Tail down if need be.
Now i Know what your thinking. How the hell do you take off when your stopped in less than 100 feet on the top of a mountian full of rocks etc. ITS called " WORK" . Get out the axe , shovel and make a runway. No axe required in the desert.
DAM , Im so full of myself .

DON"T TRY THIS AT HOME Boys and Girls unless you meet the requirements of no brains , brass balls, and to go where no man has gone before. " A man has just gots to know his limitations"
"The older i get the Better I was"
It also helps to really assign a Bunch of thought into the risk reward factor before you leap.
BTW did i remark about having to walk 5 miles, hitch a ride and return with a chain saw the next day because the brass factor faded away one day? Or maybe the tin man found a brain? I like to think so anyway.

Almost forgot have not ADJUSTED a brake in 20+ years
A couple of 20 minute pad changes and a little harder on tires

STC Number:
SA4797NM

This certificate issued to:
Bigby E A

STC Holder's Address:
Rt 1, Box 612
Klamath Falls OR 97603
United States

Description of the Type Design Change:
Installation of Cessna rudder pedals, master cylinders, and axles, aircraft spruce and specialty wheel fairings, and Cleveland brakes and wheels.

Application Date:


Status:
Issued, 03/22/1990

Responsible Office:
ANM-100S Seattle Aircraft Certification Office Tel: (425) 917-6400
TC Number -- Make -- Model:
A-696 -- Booth, Lee F. dba Taylorcraft Aerospace -- BC12-D

Full Text of STC:

[jdlawson]

Master Stormman,
I talked to Mr. Bigby a couple of years ago about his STC and he said it was a 1 shot STC and couldn't be used on other aircraft beyond the one he did. However, it may leave open the ability to use your aircraft & experience over the last 20+ years and ?? hours with the modification as a basis for a field approval. Any chance of getting pictures and/or a sketch of your setup?

Thanks,
JD Lawson
TF #206

[stormman]

HYD Brakes

Hello J.D
For the last 4 years i have been hoping to meet you at Panamint springs, But its not happening as of yet because the WINGS are not ON the plane .
I could try the photo thing but you could fly up to Nut Tree Vacavile and see it for yourself. Its nice and looks good. If you did not know better you would think Factory and thats why i never have been questioned on it i do believe. I think in your flying environment it would be a Big plus to be able to stop to avoid the rain washes left on those gold mine strips down there in the desert. There almost impossible to see all of them by air but you can repair them after you land.
Have you ever seen the goldfish at Chinacamp ?

[jdlawson]

Hi Norman,
Unfortunatley I've been suffering from groundhog-itis for the last year. Put 121 down to finish the rebuild a year ago last November and in the first year opened the hangar door a grand total of 5 times. Did get a little work done over Christmas but I'm back to 15 hr days, 7 days a week, at work for at least the next two months.

The biggest reason that I would like hydraulic brakes is during taxi ops in high winds when it would be really nice to have both brakes and rudder available. Here in the desert, the 'normal' daily winds are 25-35 knots and I have been caught out in unforecast 45 knot winds. Had to do a hover landing on the ramp on the lee-side of the hangar and use full power to get up against the hangar out of the wind so I could shut down.

Lowering the pressure in the large tires to 10psi lets me stop really short on dirt but the shinn brakes can't hold againt more than a 15 knot crosswind before the tailwheel breaks free and the plane weather cocks into the wind. At that point, you have no effective steering left since the tailwheel is castering and you can only use the heel brakes or the rudder at any given time (neither can do the job by themselves). This means you can only go straight into the wind whether it is a desireable direction or not. A couple of airport managers have discovered that they actually did have crosswind runways that they weren't aware of.

Perhaps I can get a weekend off in the next couple of months and drive up and visit for awhile but still would like to see some pictures if you get the chance since the cockpit area is next on the rebuild list.

JD

[stormman]

hydo brakes

Kinda of a long drive J D and your correct on the cross wind taxi thing, piece of cake at trona the last time i was down there.
Will try to get some photos this weekend but i will probably have to use 35 mm to get good ones , will try digital one's too. If the 35mm come out ok i will send you copies, Will use flash and a roll of film from different angles
I find it a little hard to believe there are not more of the brake conversions out there. Guess im just use to mine . Anyone else ever see one?

[jdlawson]

Thanks Norm - appreciate it! JD

[stormman]

Hyd Brakes

The pictures came out Bad and even though they looked ok , you could not tell anything from them as far as construction goes. Might as well be looking at a cessy 150 on the local line

[Jim Herpst]

Any one have any Shinn wheels and brakes they wish to sell? I need em for a Christavia project me and a buddy have almost complete

[taylorcraftbc65]

Hyd Brakes

After I turned the offending "wishbone" around, the brakes worked fine, and I have been trying to get used to the stock brakes. In the month that I have been doing that, I have gotten more comfortable with the system, but may, at a future date change them over if I don't get a little more comfortable with them
in the next 50 hours or so. On run-up, mine hold the plane untill
1200 RPM, then the plane creeps slightly forward. I can live with that, it's more a case of getting used to having the pedals under my heels, rather then my toes.
Sabrina