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I have purchased a Taylorcraft with the Gilberti STC completed with weight increase to 1280. I inherited two storage boxes of aircraft history stuff that the past owner has saved most everything. There are blue prints, 337 forms, logbook entries, etc, I have seen old posts here that referenced a Manual that was included with the completion of the STC. I have found no manual in the loads of stuff I do have. The old posts also stated there were pages from the manual that were suppose to be in the airplane.. A couple of these old post referenced people having copies and that they would try to post the manual in the "Technical Files" But, I didn't see it there. At any rate does anyone have a copy of this Gilberti STC Manual they can share? I would appreciate it Thanks Craig
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Contact the STC owner? > https://dc65stc.blogspot.com/2018/12...explained.html
In the meantime for gross weights up to 1320# there's no CAA/FAA approved Flight Manual required or available. Just cockpit placards, W&B, equipment list, Airworthiness Certificate, and Registration. For 1500# GW there is a Flight Manual required by CAR 3 under which the Model 19 (1500 GW) was certified.
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I Wasn't referencing a Taylorcraft Flight Manual. I was wondering about a Flight Manual that, according to old posts, was part of the gilberti STCComment
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That is the approved flight manual that is part of the Gilberti STC. It's required to be in the aircraft only if the gross weight is increased to the Model 19 equivalent at 1500 pounds. Contact the STC holder I linked above and confirm. From CAP's Catalog:
Code 003.19
Taylorcraft BC or BC12-D ENGINE Upgrade STC SA1-210 Configuration (B).
Install 85 hp Continental C85-12 Engine. Model 19 equivalent. Includes Basic
Electrical System. Requires “Long” engine mount and cowling mods. Various
options below NOTE: use propeller model as eligible for or model 19 per TCDS
1A9. Requires Flight Manual for NORMAL or UTILITY Category operations.
Code 004.
1500 STC SA1-210 Gross WEIGHT Increase 1500 lb. Config B]. Only available with code 003.19
Gary N36007N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85Comment
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Thanks for clarifying Gary!!!!Comment
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The current STC holder CAP has copies of the Flight Manual - usually per N-number and S/N if the STC's procedures are confirmed. If you go to 1500# get a copy signed for your plane for a few $.
GaryN36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85Comment
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I bought the STC, etc. and all the work has been done etc. With MOSAIC coming, the 1320 lbs light sport is not a plus. The STC says that going either way is an option, but manual required for the Model 19 1500 lb option. My problem is making contact with Bowden. I hear I am not alone. The STC doesn't say that the manual has to be signed by him ??? Any ideas or info appreciated. DanComment
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My success with CAP was to call via phone. Be patient as he's involved in many projects. The FM is available, but mine came via an earlier STC holder. Gary N36007
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From postings on Facebook, I think Terry has been traveling.Originally posted by danglandt View PostComment
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Personally I would do all of the modifications for 1500, but put the increase to 1320 until MOSAIC is approved. The reason I say this is because MOSAIC at this point is just a proposal. There is no way of really knowing what the final rule will be. Regardless of how hopeful everyone is the FAA seems to have a way of messing things up.Originally posted by danglandt View PostComment
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1320 is definitely a plus.First one can retain the short engine mount. The plane simply flies better with the short mount . I would not want to have a long mount Taylorcraft...however if the 1500 is a must still better than many other ships. Second "Mosaic coming" is a mouthful We all hope it goes through as written however untill we see it I would not hold my breath it will be. So for me anyway 1320 is a blessing and am glad Terry has made it available and I have it and the 0200 upgrade STC. As gar as Terry being a bit difficult to get ahold of that is truth. Just stick with calling him. He is very busy but WILL get back to you. Best to you.Originally posted by danglandt View PostComment
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The short mount and extended baggage? Depends on whether not the CG stays within limits on wheels, skis, and floats in all load configurations involving baggage. Gary
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Extended baggage is not so much the question with the short mount.Terry will allow it with one of his add on STC s . The 1500 pound weight limit is where the long mount comes in .....Originally posted by PA1195 View PostComment
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See Page 6 of CAP's catalog for a similar note regarding loaded CG concern. https://app.box.com/s/ysds87f73ksuxe98ualkjoozscp75amc There are workarounds regarding battery placement and overall weight FWF.Originally posted by Jim Herpst View Post
Gary N36007N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85Comment
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Again that is referring to the large baggage area not the 1500 weight. Pergaps the last sentence on that page where he is referring to special approval will also take in the 1t00 gross weight however I see nothing in the STC for 1500 allowing keeping the short mount..Originally posted by PA1195 View PostComment
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