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  • BC12D to O-200?

    Looking for a TCraft to do float instruction in, but hard to find F19s these days. Can you upgrade a BC12D to the 0-200 reasonably? Many thanks...
    Wes Erb
    Big Lake, AK

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    Terry Bowden. DER, Certified Aeronautical Products, Hold an STC.
    L Fries
    N96718
    TF#110

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    • #3
      This may give you some ideas, as Lfries just mentioned: https://app.box.com/s/0oztla0fy2r1lgv738un6ylvm1r97tlf
      Dick Smith N5207M TF#159

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        What's your budget and plans? Can you do enough float work to recover costs? It's often more cost effective to buy it than build it. I have a BC12D with C-85 Stroker with many STC's and now unobtainable Field Approvals. There's at least $70K in the package built up over the last 15 years by the former owner and then me.

        Finding an F-19 then floats to carry the GW today would be a challenge.

        Gary N36007
        Last edited by PA1195; 12-26-2022, 20:09.
        N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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        • #5
          There is a 1976 F19 project with 0200 in mo listed in barnstormers for $14000

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          • #6
            Wes, try to contact George Hobson at Chena Marina Airport AK28. He and William "Bill" Green are the local Taylorcraft experts.

            Gary N36007
            Last edited by PA1195; 12-27-2022, 16:54. Reason: Name correction for Bill Green
            N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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            • #7
              Do George Hobson or Jim Green still own a Taylorcraft? I don't have them in the historic database. Even if they don't currently own, I would like to add them as tech experts!

              Hank

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hank Jarrett View Post
                Do George Hobson or Jim Green still own a Taylorcraft? I don't have them in the historic database. Even if they don't currently own, I would like to add them as tech experts!

                Hank
                Yes George Hobson owns and flys a few Taylorcrafts...William "Bill" Green has owned several and instructs for owners. Both are or were commercial pilots that flew large aircraft. I have sourced a few of their prior Taylorcraft records to build a personal database of modifications. I assume a Google search of FAA Airmen or just generic will inform on address and perhaps contact method. They have flown the Taylorcraft far more than any I'm aware of, with the exception of Heidi Ruess and family at Lake Hood in Anchorage. Their business site: https://arcticflyers.net

                PS, the Blue Taylorcraft in their ad no longer exists. Heidi and a student (a learner in today's woke vocabulary) landed in the ocean near Goose Bay airstrip and walked to shore safely. The plane went away with the tide in Cook Inlet near Anchorage.

                Gary N36007
                Last edited by PA1195; 12-27-2022, 16:53. Reason: Name correction for Bill Green
                N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                • #9
                  Thank you. Hope to meet them someday or at least correspond!

                  Hank

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                  • #10
                    Got all the PM just fine Hank. If I were motivated to learn Taylorcraft flying for Alaskan condx I'd contact https://arcticflyers.net, or Wes Erb if he sources one.

                    Wes Erb is looking for an F-19. I know of none for sale. They make a good trainer as well he knows from his long time flight experience. Me at 450' MSL, Standard Day no wind, EW 904#, close to full nose tank, I'm 200#, and off on 1320 floats in 500'. Same distance to do quick touch and goes. I've got film to prove it.

                    Gary N36007
                    N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                    • #11
                      I am building up one. All new metal cowl built around the 0200 and tons more. Done correctly(I hope to have good example) it is not cheap. If one looks at the performance and utility vs what else is out there it is not a matter of what you can sell it for. The fact is you cannot replace it with a new one like you will have. 70 to 80 k while not chump change is the price of eggs in 2023. You cannot purchase a new one. You can build it but not replace it.Also yes you can purchase worn examples for less. They will be worn .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PA1195 View Post

                        . Heidi and a student (a learner in today's woke vocabulary) landed in the ocean near Goose Bay airstrip and walked to shore safely. The plane went away with the tide in Cook Inlet near Anchorage.

                        Gary N36007
                        Gary, when did that happen?? I heard nothing about it!
                        John
                        I'm so far behind, I think I'm ahead

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by N96337 View Post

                          Gary, when did that happen?? I heard nothing about it!
                          John
                          https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/20...two-survivors/ Walked away at 87! HNY John.

                          Gary N36007
                          N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jim Herpst View Post
                            I am building up one. All new metal cowl built around the 0200 and tons more. Done correctly(I hope to have good example) it is not cheap. If one looks at the performance and utility vs what else is out there it is not a matter of what you can sell it for. The fact is you cannot replace it with a new one like you will have. 70 to 80 k while not chump change is the price of eggs in 2023. You cannot purchase a new one. You can build it but not replace it.Also yes you can purchase worn examples for less. They will be worn .
                            Yes quite correct Jim. The pervious owner of mine had over $60K in it. I got it for less then spent close to $26K as of today. Anybody price a new pickup truck lately? This is the world we now fly in. Many want a $20-25K forever airplane. They are not there, or if half there will need fabric or engine eventually if not sooner. Thank Cub Crafters for all this pricing to begin with. Then as planes age out via accidents or expensive incidents the market shrinks, while demand for them maintains or for certain models increases. Enjoy what you have while you can.

                            Gary N36007

                            N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                            • #15
                              You did well to buy it. Mine is on the short mount with what will be a starter only. A lighter 0200 Taylorcraft is in my opinion unbeatable. The build is not for the faint of heart dollar wise.. Un replaceable.plus a family heirloom to begin with. So money aside for a new un obtainable plane.111

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