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    Any solved the heat problem by flying with the doors off?- Mike
    Mike Horowitz
    Falls Church, Va
    BC-12D, N5188M
    TF - 14954

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    Re: Flying with the doors off

    Originally posted by mhorowit
    Any solved the heat problem by flying with the doors off?- Mike
    Should read "any body solved the heat problem..."
    Mike Horowitz
    Falls Church, Va
    BC-12D, N5188M
    TF - 14954

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    • #3
      Re: Flying with the doors off

      Sure cools you off.

      Is that the question?

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      • #4
        Re: Flying with the doors off

        .....and slows you down.However,who's in a hurry anyway if your flying a t-craft.
        Kevin Mays
        West Liberty,Ky

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        • #5
          Re: Flying with the doors off

          OK; other than the obvious (keep the seatbelt fastened) and don't leave the map open on the passenger's side, any other warnings? - Mike
          Mike Horowitz
          Falls Church, Va
          BC-12D, N5188M
          TF - 14954

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          • #6
            Re: Flying with the doors off

            My advice is to keep your speed under 80 or 90 mph. The door openings are big enough that you can potentially build up a lot of air pressure in the fuselage, which could create problems with the windshield, fabric, headliner, etc. I don't have personal experience with this, so if anyone has more knowledge than I please let us all know.

            If you plan on doing any sideslips, I'd hold your charts and small pieces down with CHAINS

            Bill
            Taylorcraft : Making Better Aviators for 75 Years... and Counting

            Bill Berle
            TF#693

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            • #7
              Re: Flying with the doors off

              Even with just the windows open in a slip you can lose stuff out of the open baggage compartment. Was doing aerial photos the other day and slipping to get the strut out of the way and the paper towels started to unfurl from the roll behind me. Reminded me of toilet paper cutting. Slipping on final one day and a folded garbage bag departed the plane. Hope the cows didn't eat it.
              20442
              1939 BL/C

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              • #8
                Re: Flying with the doors off

                I personally know of a case where a T-Craft, flying with one door off, stalled unexpectedly, spun in, a fatal crash. Fairly high altitude area, Gunnison CO if I remember correctly. So I would be VERY careful.

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                • #9
                  Re: Flying with the doors off

                  Works for me..

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                  • #10
                    Re: Flying with the doors off

                    Deleted 6/18/05
                    Last edited by WLT; 06-18-2005, 04:49.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Flying with the doors off

                      Guys,

                      There actually is an STC that makes it legal to fly the T-Craft with the doors off for Aerial photograpy, sky diving , or other similar uses. It's basically a paperwork mod that does come with some limitations but they are pretty common sense items. It's been a while since I looked at it but I think it says no smoking and no baggage can be carried when flying with the door removed. There may be some bank/airspeed limitations as well but my memory is kind of foggy on this and might be slightly clouded by the similar procedures that must be followed to do the same thing with my Piper Pacer. I needed the extra seats for my two kids so the T-Craft had to go and it's found a new home in Soldotna, AK. I flew the Pacer back to Alaska after purchasing it in Baltimore, Maryland. That was quite a journey even with the "high speeds" possible in the Pacer.

                      Regards, Roger Clyne

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                        Re: Flying with the doors off

                        Deleted 6/18/05
                        Last edited by WLT; 06-18-2005, 04:50.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Flying with the doors off

                          Ya gotta have an approval to remove the right yoke? The only time I have mine in is for my bi-annual.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Flying with the doors off

                            Just a reminder there are some aircraft that are allowed to operate with the doors off and it is called out on the Type Certificate Data Sheet for those makes and models. There are others that can apply for a STC and still others that require a Specil Operations Limitation issued by your local FSDO.

                            The Operation Limitations is for parachute jumping, sky diving, etc and will come with a maxiume speed not to exceed, maneuvering speed limit, usually 70 percent level flight speed, manimum yaw angle 10 degrees, maximum bank angle 15 degrees.

                            Taken the doors off to stay cool without approval may void you insurance policy. Something to consider.

                            Denny

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                            • #15
                              Re: Flying with the doors off

                              Hey guys,
                              I fly Manu Sina with the bottom of the windows flipped out, and my left elbow hanging out the the left window all the time. The only thing that I have noticed is that if I sideslip the plane, the window on the partially forward facing window wants to close.

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