Shoulder harness?

[mhorowit]

Re: Shoulder harness?

The harness configuration is single belt over one shoulder (outboard) and the female belt fitting is attached at the same point as the center seat belt anchor (middle of the seat). Dave

For a person who puts on a shoulder strap every time I get in the car, I forgot entirely about using a single cross-chest strap and focused entirely on the 'Y' configuration!. Duh.

[M Towsley]

Re: Shoulder harness?

Mike,

I have the Hooker Harnesses with the 'Y' strap with metal fittings on the end of each shoulder strap. They slide onto the lap belt tang before you push the tang into the belt buckle. They are made for this and fit perfectly. Hope this answered your earlier question.

Marty

[mhorowit]

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Everyone seems to be fishing around for some answers while Frank and I were communicating off line. In addition to sending a scanned copy of the 337, I sent the following to Frank:

Frank,
Attached are two of the pictures. I'll send three more by second email.
The Mgfr is Davis Restraint Systems, Inc. in Alhambra CA. There was this
number on the label: FDC 7275-74-1-080. If you have any other questions,
let me know.
Alan

The installation of the shoulder belt was easy and didn't cost much at all. I will try and post the pictures which show the attach point on the aircraft and the seat belt.

Alan
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Alan - I e-mailed Davis and received the following:

From: Carol Leadbeater [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:52 AM
To: 'Davis Sales Department'
Subject: RE: Over the shoulder strap

Dear Michael:
We can't sell shoulder strap by it self. And the buckle assembly shown in
the picture is not a Davis belt.
Sorry that we can not be of help.
Regards;
Carol Leadbeater
Sales Associate x105
Davis Aircraft Products Co., Inc
1150 Walnut Ave
Bohemia NY 11716 USA
Ph 631-563-1500
Fx 631-563-1117

https://www.davisaircraft.com

----Original Message-----
From: Michael Horowitz [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Over the shoulder strap


Good morning.

An acquaintance advised you have a simple over the shoulder restraint which
has a lower end attachment that fits over the seatbelt tongue. See attached
picture. The nomenclature "FDC-7275-74-1-080" may be associated with this
assembly.
Please provide a price for a right and left shoulder restraint. This will
be installed in a Taylorcraft.
Michael Horowitz

Any suggestions? - Mike

[WLT]

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[Frank DeBartolo]

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I called Davis Restraints yesterday and received a drawing of a shoulder restraint that does not at all look like the one in the picture that Alan emaied me. The strap is different and the buckles are different. Furthermore, they faxed me an agreement to sign if I purchase the straps. The agreement states that THE SHOULDER HARNESS ASSEMBLIES ARE A NON-TSO/NON-PMA APPLIANCE AND SHALL NOT BE USED ON TYPE CERTIFICATED AIRCRAFT.

I have not had the time to call Davis back, but it seems to me that the pictures that Alan sent me are exactly what I am looking for and that any shoulder restraint is better than none at all.

I personally would be very happy with Alan's shoulder restraint system. Does any Taylorcraft Tribe member have any ideas about how to proceed further toward getting these shoulder restraints? I will be calling Davis Restraints tomorrow and will let all members know what Davis tells me.

Thanks,

Frank

[mhorowit]

Re: Shoulder harness?

Their web site seems to indicate they are willing to sell the seatbelt attach hardware and the adjustors. That and an upholstery buddy ...

[Frank DeBartolo]

Re: Shoulder harness?

Thanks Wayne,

I was writing my message while you were sending yours. There is a parachute club at my airport. I will check out this angle and let all know what I find out from a parachute rigger.

Frank

[AlvinMcIver]

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To all:
The lady at Davis was probably correct that they don't sell a "shoulder strap by itself". We didn't buy just one strap, we purchased a shoulder harness (two straps) and used one on each side. The AI (IA - which is it?) said my existing seat belts were ok to use (I will check to see who manufactured them) and the set up fits fine. How he got just the shoulder straps and not the belts, I don't know (maybe he ordered the whole sheebang and split them up). I suppose I don't care so long as it got signed off by the local FSDO - more than being better than nothing (which it is), it is the same style we have in our (no gasping now) club 172, except that we have the full harness (two shoulder straps) for each of the front seats and my recollection is that, when we had the shoulder harnesses installed in the 172, we didn't have to replace the belts. No wonder life in the ga lane can be confusing.

[Jim Herpst]

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Mike, I have had my Hooker harness wrapped around the tube and they have worked great (never in a violent crash mind you) As far as the headliner I did what another gentleman suggested earlier..Went to a local fabrisc store, purchased a foot of vinyl (dark gray to compliment the lighter grey headliner), used pinking shears to cut the edges slit the portion where the belt goes and used a good adhesive to glue it to the fabric. Best of luck here. Have fun this is an easy deal.

[mhorowit]

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this is an easy deal.

Well, if I can purchase the shoulder straps alone, it will be easy!
Otherwise I would have to fabricate them and although that's also easy and fun, it will envolve more work than a simple phone call to Davis. - Mike

[Jim Herpst]

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Huh say what Mike???? Fabricate Harness ?? Who is Davis? Is he with (or is)Hooker ?? You must be confusing or somhow mixing my post with the one immediately above it. My e-mail stating it was an easy fun deal was (as I stated ) I used Hooker Harness and yes I assumed duh ... that word ...ASSumed you were simply going to purchase the whole system. If not then you are not. I had a pleasant fun and yes simple time with it. It was not expensive either. I do not understand all the banter about it frankly. I see posts about purchase of one strap etc. This is kind serious stuff here. The few bucks ones spends with Jack Hooker are well worth it in my book . Best of luck to you on this Mike.
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[mhorowit]

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Huh say what Mike???? Fabricate Harness ?? Who is Davis? Is he with (or is)Hooker ?? You must be confusing or somhow mixing my post with the one immediately above it. My e-mail stating it was an easy fun deal was (as I stated ) I used Hooker Harness and yes I assumed duh ... that word ...ASSumed you were simply going to purchase the whole system. If not then you are not. I had a pleasant fun and yes simple time with it. It was not expensive either. I do not understand all the banter about it frankly. I see posts about purchase of one strap etc. This is kind serious stuff here. The few bucks ones spends with Jack Hooker are well worth it in my book . Best of luck to you on this Mike.
system

I think I like the puddering with the a/c just a little more than the flying.
Of course when I learn to 'dance' better...... - Mike

[Jim Herpst]

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Mike, Puddering with an Ol T is fun too. Course it can get frusterating also when one pudder job start cascading as it can. Best of luck and fun. Jim