Door cable covers

[Norm G]

I could use some help with cable cover on the front door post of my 41 BC12. I think that the upper and lower covers are mounted where they should but that leaves a gap along the door post. What fills in the 1 1/2 inch space from the back of the boot cowl and the cable covers? The part numbers of the covers are 1762 and 1763. Also I have another cover (see pictures) that I don't know where it goes.
Thanks
Norm G

[Guest]

Re: Door cable covers

I could use some help with cable cover on the front door post of my 41 BC12. I think that the upper and lower covers are mounted where they should but that leaves a gap along the door post. What fills in the 1 1/2 inch space from the back of the boot cowl and the cable covers? The part numbers of the covers are 1762 and 1763. Also I have another cover (see pictures) that I don't know where it goes.
Thanks
Norm G

Hi Norm,

I cannot see the problem you are describing. The pictures are too small and too far away.

But based on what you wrote I would say that the answer is the carpet that goes on the top of the instrument panel.

At least that is what fills up the space on mine. It does not fill it perfectly.

Dave

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Door cable covers

Took me a while to get mine right. There is a fitted metal piece on the "A" Pillar (the part between the windscreen and the front of the window on the door that wraps around the tubes, cables and fuel line if you have wing tanks). I will try to find more photos of the lower "A" Pillar wrap in the next message. It took a LOT of minor fiddling to get them to fit right. Funny part was the radio clip I made came out perfect the first time even with all those weird angles. Works GREAT!

Hank

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Door cable covers

Can't find many photos that show the lower cover that goes between the floor and the bottom of the panel. It is MUCH simpler to fit! Note that I used a cheap piece of cardboard and made MANY glare shields before I made the final one to get a good fit. The clearances where it goes down next to the upper covers is kind of complex and if you leave a gap EVERYTHING falls down and around it! You DO NOT want a pen or pencil to fall in that gap and jam a pulley! In this photo you can also see the leading edge wing root cover that used a whole tree worth of cardboard to get a good pattern. The left and right sides are not even mirror image from each other, but look like it when fit up right. Same for the cut outs where the windshield tubes go through the glare shield. I made small pieces of card board that would slide over the tubes, then a big hole in the test glare shield. When I installed it, I glued the small cardboard pieces to the big glare shield cardboard to get the holes in the right place in the final glare shield. Fits VERY tight now. These things took an INCREDIBLE amount of time to get to look right, and no one seems to even notice when they get in the plane.
I also made small covers to go around the front of the rudder pedals to keep junk from going forward and end up under the floor boards. Took a LOT of careful fitting to close up all the gaps and not interfere with the brake p[pedals and rudder pedal rods, but worth it. I must have dumped 5 or 10 pounds of junk out of the boot cowl when I took it off. Seventy years worth of lost bits and pieces from coins to hardware and a few pieces of junk jewelry. Nothing gets under the floor board now and with the new cut lines it is MUCH easier to pull the floor boards up for an annual.

Hank

[waltermrich]

Re: Door cable covers

Very nice work !

[Norm G]

Re: Door cable covers

I cropped the photo of the area of the door post, maybe this shot is better. The wood spacer and the door frame tubing are the areas where I needs some sort of a filler.
Thanks,
Norm G

[Guest]

Re: Door cable covers

I cropped the photo of the area of the door post, maybe this shot is better. The wood spacer and the door frame tubing are the areas where I needs some sort of a filler.
Thanks,
Norm G

Oh, not at all what I was thinking.

Do you have a door frame installed? I can't tell for sure from the picture but it looks like you do not.

Dave

[Guest]

Re: Door cable covers

Hmm maybe only the later models had door frames.

I think that I just don't have a clue about this question.

Sorry, Dave

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Door cable covers

OK, something funky going on here. There was no wood on the "A" pillar of my 41. The DOOR is wood and there is wood along the bottom, rear and top, but not the front of the frame (that I remember).
I will be going to the airport today (FINALLY GOT THE CARB WORKING!!!!! Hoping for an engine run on Saturday!) and will see if I can get some clearer photos.

Hank

[Norm G]

Re: Door cable covers

That's the thing, I don't have a door frame cover for the front. I do have the cable covers top and bottom that cover the cables but don't wrap around far enough to cover the door frame. The cable covers that I have are listed in the (Taylorctaft Parts & Price List) book page 21. I do have the wood doors and they fit perfect.

Norm

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Door cable covers

I checked today under the metal wraps and there is a thin piece of wood wrapped to the tube with cotton tape to fill the gap. Got some photos and will try to post them this weekend.

Hank

[Norm G]

Re: Door cable covers

Hank,

I appreciate the effort you are making in helping my solve this problem.

Norm G

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Door cable covers

Norm,
Here is what I took yesterday. Hope I can get all the photos in one post instead of 3 or 4. Let me know if you need detail shots of anything else.

First photo is of the glove box door on the left with the wrap piece on the �A� pillar. Note how it has a little lip that slips under the windscreen retention piece. It isn�t screwed in, it just slips behind it. If I had to do it again I would make the lip longer.
Second picture is at the top of the door frame. I spent a lot of time with paper patterns to get the gap closed up. It is trial and error since no two planes are exactly alike. Same for the wing root bands. Getting them to fin in one piece and stay flat was a BEAR!
Third photo is from the inside looking at the top of the �A� pillar wrap and LE cuff pieces. The Cuff is only held together by the screw and where it goes under the edge of the top glass (mine has the original 4 piece windshield system). That is also the original position for the vent in the side windscreen. Most people put them in the door glass since it is so much easier to replace the door glass when you break it than the windscreen.
Next photo is where the top �A� Pillar cover meets the instrument panel. Again, lots of fiddly trimming and trial and error. You DO NOT WANT GAPS! EVERYTHING you lay on top of the glare shield seems to roll down into that space and can jam the controls when it falls!
Next shot is looking down in the gap between the glare shield and �A� Pillar cover.
Next I took one from outside with the canopy cover pulled back so you can see how the wrap comes to the windscreen. It is just bent back and is not attached to the structure at the front edge. Looks TERRIBLE if you know to look there.
Photo 7 is my fingers pulling the wrap back from the windscreen retainer to expose the fabric tape wrap that holds the ~1/4� thick piece of wood that keeps the windscreen retainer flat. That little lip is original dimension and is TOO SMALL! I would extend it almost to the screws the next time to make it stiffer.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Door cable covers

Sorry, it takes two posts.

Hank

[Norm G]

Re: Door cable covers

Hank
Thank you so much for your help. Now I understand what my problem is. The covers that I have don't wrap around enough. The upper and lower cable covers come up short and don't hook into the winshield strip on the top and the boot cowl on the lower cover. Looks like what I need to do is make up 4 door jamb strips. I'll make the bend a little longer then yours to fit under the windshield strip and the boot cowl.
I tried to duplicate your pictures so you can see what problem are for comparison.
Couldn't get the last picture uploaded.

Thanks,
Norm G