Inverted flight

[Carrieve]

OK Tribe. Do not do this! Anyway, when I get all the insurance paperwork and try to get her back I will need parts.

[robbie]

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Ok what's the story on this? Bad ice?

[Carrieve]

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Taking off from Hartford on 36. Not enough speed and she settled back after lifting off and then the banks for the cross runway were a little to high and so.....I did not realize they were there/high. Oh well. Neither of us hurt at all.

[barnstmr]

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Glad you're OK.

[mikerice]

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Hi Carrieve,
Glad to hear you are ok. The aircraft took one for the team though! Were you wearing shoulder harnesses?

I hope the insurance works out in your favor and the repairs do not take too long. Again, I am glad to hear you and your passenger are ok.

[Nefj40]

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Damn!
At least you're Ok, planes can be fixed.

[Carrieve]

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The one thing I want to come out of this, is how important shoulder harness's are. I and my passenger would have been severely injured if we had not been wearing them. We had only a few bumps. Our biggest injury was unbuckling and hitting our heads on the ceiling when we were inverted. I was so concerned about getting out in case of fire that we both banged our heads. I installed them many years when I and my late father rebuilt the old girl and they are priceless.

[Hank Jarrett]

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Has ANYONE found a way to unbuckle in an inverted plane and NOT drop like a fist full of wet mortar? Every one I have ever talked to has smashed their head. Ought to be SOMETHING to hold on to. Hate to survive the crash, then get knocked unconscious for the fire!

Hank

[N96337]

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Has ANYONE found a way to unbuckle in an inverted plane and NOT drop like a fist full of wet mortar? Every one I have ever talked to has smashed their head. Ought to be SOMETHING to hold on to. Hate to survive the crash, then get knocked unconscious for the fire!

Hank

Just let your passenger hit their head and get knocked out first, then you land on them and use them for a cushion. Just kidding.... but to echo Carrieve's thoughts.. shoulder harnesses are about the best money you can spend, safety wise. I haven't heard anyone say they wished they didn't have them!
John

[flyguy]

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I know from nothing about ski operations, but it sounds like the crossing area was not cleaned up correctly by the people responsible for the runway maintenance?? I mean your skis look like they ran into a wall.

Would like to know how your shoulder harnesses are secured as they seemed to have functioned very well. Mine are tied to the bar behind the seat which I suspect is better than nothing, but not optimum? Yes folks we have had this discussion before.

Hank; I carry a helmet in my airplane in case I happen to be at altitude when the engine quits and have some time. For the seat belt release drop, maybe some kind of THICK pad in the luggage bag?
Darryl

[Fooey]

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Hank,
You know that little brace next to the seat that keeps you from getting in and out easily? I am pretty sure that is acually an inverted landing/takeoff emergency egress system as it obviously has no other good use. You hang onto that while you unbuckle your belt and you will swing right out of the plane.

Tim

[stearman3]

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Has ANYONE found a way to unbuckle in an inverted plane and NOT drop like a fist full of wet mortar? Every one I have ever talked to has smashed their head. Ought to be SOMETHING to hold on to. Hate to survive the crash, then get knocked unconscious for the fire!

Hank

Gosh Hank, just keep pulling 'G'!

[robbie]

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This happen @ Hartford WI? That's a long way from Port Wing.

[Carrieve]

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My shoulder straps are on the upper horizontal tube. That is the tube right where the rear pulleys are located that goes from side to side. Putting them up there alleviates any danger of spine compression on impact. As soon as the FAA allows me to look(this Saturday I hope) I will examine to see if there was any damage. I know for a fact that there were some excessive G forces exerted but they worked well. That's all that counts.

[Hank Jarrett]

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Love to see photos of any damage to the harness attach. Especially if the belts slid across the tube. I like the idea of holding the diagonal tube across the door to drop down, but the 41 deluxe has the tube under the upholstery and door frame for the wood doors.

Hank

The diagonal tube across the bottom rear of the door is to carry a tension load and keep the door frame from collapsing and jamming the door. It is a structural member, DON'T BE TEMPTED TO REMOVE IT!!!!! The cabin would collapse on itself in a crash if it was gone!