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    OK gang, I'm almost ready to assemble my first wing (clip wing) but have a few questions I'd like to confirm. My spars are complete and have the wing loosely assembled, ribs cleco'd in place, drag wires installed (not tramelled yet) and everything appears to be lining up properly. I just have to weld the strut attach pieces and a couple rib repairs, then I should be ready to go.

    1. Direction of bolts thru spars? - my old wings have been rebuilt several times and some point to the front and some to the back.
    2. Should I use metal or fiber lock nuts? - again mine have a mixture of both
    3. Torque for bolts thru the spars?
    I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go along, but this should get me started. Any help is appreciated.

  • #2
    Re: Wing assembly questions

    1. I'm not sure the bolt direction matters...but good practice dictates the bolt head should be forward (but it makes no difference to me!)

    2. I used nylock nuts throughout. Metal stiffnuts are more expensive.

    3. I don't know the torque value...just snug and no more, certainly not enough to crush the wood.

    Rob

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    • #3
      Re: Wing assembly questions

      Greg and Rob,
      Torque all the bolts to there recommended torque values....it will not crush the wood. On the compression strut boltsn with nothing on the other side but wood make sure you use the big surface washers.....Once again,torque them all to book specs for each size bolt. Also after a couple of weeks you may want to go back and re-torque them again and once more before you cover them. I will say that I used the low torque setting for all the wing bolts and I torqued them about 4 times before I started covering over a time frame of about 4 months. I too used the nylon lock nuts and as for direction.....whatever looks best and works best....however I would recommend going front to back where ever you can but in some places it just don't work that way.
      Kevin Mays
      West Liberty,Ky

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      • #4
        Re: Wing assembly questions

        Hi Greg

        I'm just reassembling my right wing as we speak and thought the same question a few weeks ago. I ended up putting the front spar bolts in with the heads forward and the aft spar bolts with the heads aft. I'm not there yet but when the fabric goes on and the inspection holes are placed, I believe they will fit between the spars. When you go to inspect the wing, I'd rather see the nuts, to see if they are unscrewing for some unknown reason. I used all metal reduced dimension nuts and had no problems with interference except where the new fuel tank went in. Those bolts I turned so only the heads pointed towards the tank. Gave a bit more room for a very tight fit between the tank and the spars and to prevents any chaffing issues. Just my thoughts.

        Rog

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        • #5
          Re: Wing assembly questions

          I did find an interesting little article about bolts and torque. I'll just copy and paste it here for easy reading.

          Roger



          Torque Those Bolts Properly
          by Bob Steward, A&P IA
          [email protected]


          From the RV List, in response to a question about measuring bolt torque when friction is present.




          I was in a class some years ago that was totally devoted to proper torque in fastening systems. The instructor went to great pains all morning to show us how every day we were violating some basic ground rules of proper use of threaded fasteners. By the end of the morning, at the lunch break, I think we’d all about decided that it was hopeless, and that we’d never be able to successfully torque a bolt.

          The afternoon was spent teaching us the correct methods to avoid the common failures we had discussed all morning.

          In the exact situation you described, where a friction component was causing inaccurate torque readings, he suggested that we use a very accurate measurement of the existing drag on the fastener, and add that amount to the torque spec for that particular system. Since nut plates have a higher friction when new than when re-used, I might suggest running the bolt into the nutplate once, and then removing and measuring the torque the second time, and then adding that amount to the value originally intended. (For example, 6 in.lb drag + 35 in lb torque = 41 in lb corrected installation torque.) Measuring the torque on a new nutplate would give a higher reading which would then be incorrect for the reinstalling of the bolt. Each time in the future you remove and replace the bolt(s), you will want to use the corrected torque rather than the standard torque, so make a note of the corrected torque.

          Of course, we all know that you only turn the nut and hold the bolt, right? In a perfect world, maybe. Anytime the bolt is turned and the nut held, the torque applied will be incorrect. The drag of the bolt in the hole will contaminate your reading, making it read okay when the actual torque is too low. What about tightening bolts onto soft materials (like Aluminum)? Did you use washers to spread the load and prevent galling? Did you use the correct thread lube? In some cases it’s none, with the plain, cad?plated surfaces bearing on each other. In other cases it can be some pretty bizarre (and not commonly available Sunday morning at the airport) lubricants. (We already have “Mouse Milk;” can “Yak Butter” be far behind?) Any substitution will give bad readings.

          What we are attempting to do is not measure torque, but rather to approximate the amount of preload, or stretch, we apply to the bolt. Torque is only a secondary means of reaching our goal. Any of the factors (like incorrect thread lube for the torque spec given, incorrect technique on the part of the torque wrench operator, mis?calibrated tools, etc.) will give bad readings, which means improperly loaded fasteners.

          For instance, did you know that your torque wrench—freshly calibrated by someone traceable to the National Bureau of Standards—is not accurate in the first 1/6th and last 1/6th of its range? That’s right: a 100 ft.lb torque wrench is accurate only over the middle 2/3 of its range. So it should not be used for anything outside of 16?84 ft?lbs! Size the wrench to the job, and don’t fool yourself into thinking that you can just figure the conversion from in lb to ft?lb, set that 100 ft?lb torque wrench to 3 foot pounds, and have 36 inch?pounds. No telling what you’ll have, that far away from the calibrated zone.

          Having said all that, many joints in aircraft are designed so that the primary load is shear and not tension. In these applications it is only necessary to see to it that the bolt is still in place (nut has not come off) and the exact torque is of no other concern. It is difficult and awkward to measure small torques accurately. Most people over torque the airframe bolts on their planes. I used to employ a car “mechanic” (who learned his trade in the Navy) who used the “uniform torque standard” (he wrung the little ones off and left the big ones loose) and was relieved of his bolt tightening responsibilities. I never let him near my airplane.

          (Editor’s Note: Bob has made a good summary of bolt torquing practices, and raised some very important points. However, I want to add some further detail regarding bolts mounted in double shear, as I think Bob's information could be misinterpreted. On light aircraft it's not uncommon to find bolts used as pins, such as when a bolt, castle nut, and cotter pin are used as the pivot pin of an elevator hinge. In such cases, Bob's statement that it's "only necessary to see to it that the bolt is still in place (nut has not come off)" is correct. However, often when a bolt is double-shear mounted the bolt is essentially a clamp running through the joint, whose purpose is to prevent relative motion of the various parts of the joint. Relative motion in a joint of that type will lead to fretting and eventual fatigue failure of the joint. In such cases, proper preload is as important as in any other application. For excellent discussions of bolts and threaded fasteners in general, read Carroll Smith’s “Nuts, Bolts, Fasteners, and Plumbing Handbook,” and John Schwaner’s “Sky Ranch Engineering Manual.”)

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          • #6
            Re: Wing assembly questions

            Thanks everyone for the input. I've been away and haven't even read all these yet, but it looks like great info and will really help.

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