F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

[RobertP]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

ROBERT,
I have the gear fittings, to fit the tail wheel aircraft gear, to my 1992 F22A ,Taylorcraft do you have these fittings on you F22ATaylorcraft,just curious

Paul.

Hi Paul, This may be a bit of a dull question! But what fittings do you actually mean? I was not aware of any on my aircraft?

Regards,

Bob Preston ( RobertP )

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

Hi Paul, This may be a bit of a dull question! But what fittings do you actually mean? I was not aware of any on my aircraft?

Regards,

Bob Preston ( RobertP )

BOB.,
On my 1992 F22A Taylorcraft I have forward gear fittings that were on both sides circled in red in the pictures


CUBBY

Paul

[RobertP]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

BOB.,
On my 1992 F22A Taylorcraft I have forward gear fittings that were on both sides circled in red in the pictures


CUBBY

Paul

Hi Cubby, Sorry about taking so long to get back to you but I have been out of action for a couple of weeks! In short no my aircraft does not have these gear brackets only an oval shaped plate on each side of the fuselage where they would go if fitted. It sounds like a useful addition on your'e aircraft? I may have mentioned that I have the two gear legs for a F22 ( Tail dragger ) and they appear slightly different to the legs on my F22A?

By the way your'e aircraft looks terrific especially the wheel spats! what a difference that makes to the look of the model.

Go well,

Bob Preston ( RobertP )

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

Bob.,
Thank you sir, I like the wheel pants, I don't care about speed, just like the looks of them,did you double left click on the picture it makes it larger so you can see the fittings better back in 1974 I had a1951 Model 19 Taylorcraft I sold and always regretted selling it,it was a tail wheel model I put 800 hours on it before I sold it,so in 1992 I was driving by the old Piper Plant ,and stopped in MR .DARRELL ,C. ROMICK who was the CHIEF ENGINEER DER ANE 378.,Gave my Wife and myself a tour of the new Taylorcrafts in the old plant just before it was shut down,now I own this 1992 Taylorcraft with the Tail wheel on the wrong end,and wanted to change it to a tail wheel Aircraft,but MR.ROMICK had let my wife sit in a nose wheel Taylorcraft that was on the line for finishing up ,s

[RobertP]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

Hi Cubby,

Yes I did have a close up look at youre fittings but there is nothing like them on my aircraft. I like the wheel pants on youre aircraft as it makes it look very stream lined and smart, as opposed to my small wheels which look like a poor mans Tundra set up!

I dont suppose when you visited the Factory all the years ago that you ever met or heard who were the ferry pilots who flew the F22 and my F22A to the UK? They were virtually the last aircraft built at the Factory as the place closed down just when the two aircraft reached the UK en route to Italy and finished up staying in the UK. I would like to know who they were and perhaps obtain some information about the epic 56 hour flight for the History purposes of my aircraft. The log books are very limited and provide no clues and I had no joy with the FAA or CAA.

Anyway the next project hopefully next week is to fit Vortex Generators to improve the slow speed handling!

Go Well,

Bob Preston ( RobertP )

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

BOB.,
Let me know how they work out, I use 60 mph landing mine, and find it does not float, what so ever, my Model 19 at 60 mph ,you weren,t landing any where near were , you thought, but at 40 mph, it behaved well ,I find this F22A Taylorcraft is similar to my Cessna 170B and a C172H landing ,it has a lot of extras on it ,it was fitted complete I.F.R.In the U.S. Log Books ,ive been lucky it has no fuel leaks and just every bit of the Aircraft is like new, the former owner as an A&P and had it completely rebuilt just
a couple years ahead of my buying it,and he up graded to a much larger Aircraft ,for himself ,the only thing I should have waited and bought a tail wheel model,as you know my wife likes the nose wheel as she sat in one in the factory,and loved it because it was sitting level ,and had larger adjustable seats in it,if she hadn,t taken such an interest in it it would probably have a another landing gear on it and a tail wheel,oh well ,I cant have every thing I guess,thanks to Hank, on this site here are a couple pictures,my Taylorcraft a scincer thanks to Hank for reminding me how to post pictures again,have a great day Sir/s

Paul.

cubby

[Robert Lees]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

Thanks for those pictures, Paul.

As an aside: for those interested in skylights, it's quite interesting that the forward skylight on the F22 (with its greater lift loading) has no welded stubs (as per for example, the Clayton STC). So the four edges of the glazing take all the aerodynamic lift load.

The Clayton STC (which I have on my BC12D) was originally approved such that some of the aerodynamic lift was taken by four welded stubs on the "X-brace" above the cabin.

Of course, my BC12D has a much lower gross weight than the F22...perhaps it was easier for Mr Clayton to get his mod approved by having his skylight attachments supplemented with stubs. Taylorcraft at the time of the F22 certification process evidently had no such trouble!

(you can see one of these four stubs...with a black washer... just above the left ear of the RHS passenger in this photo:




Rob

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

Robert.,
I have to get some pictures, for a nice club member Jim Baker, but I have other aircraft in front of my F22A, and cant get a enough light, because even my hanger doors are snowed in, but will be putting pitures, on the site when ever I can get my doors opened, and the other Aircraft outside, so the sun light will give me enough light, to get some nice pictures, for him ,the interior of your Aircraft looks real nice the red gives it a nice glow , here are a couple pictures, of my top glass, they have washers and round fiber pulleys, under the glass, I sent to Jim but not as good pictures, as I will get probably by April, the way the weather is going, there calling for snow to night, I hope not much, then a warm up coming about time, have a great day sir and happy Taylorcraft Flying to you I sure miss my Model 19 it was a lot lighter than my F22A.

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?skylight pictures

[QUOTE=cubby;86302]Robert.,


Rob
I have to get some pictures, for a nice club member Jim Baker, but I have other aircraft in front of my F22A, and cant get a enough light, because even my hanger doors are snowed in, but will be putting pitures, on the site when ever I can get my doors opened, and the other Aircraft outside, so the sun light will give me enough light, to get some nice pictures, for him ,the interior of your Aircraft looks real nice the red gives it a nice glow , here are a couple pictures, of my top glass, they have washers and round fiber pulleys, under the glass, I sent to Jim but not as good pictures, as I will get probably by April, the way the weather is going, there calling for snow to night, I hope not much, then a warm up coming about time, have a great day sir and happy Taylorcraft Flying to you I sure miss my Model 19 it was a lot lighter than my F22A. hope this goes out ok having problems sending again

Paul
Cubby

[PA1195]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?skylight pictures

Mr. Clayton (skylight STC) moved next door to my float pond parking a few years back. Interesting fellow and quite the inventor with a rich aviation background. Had several T-Craft experiments over the years...Nitrous Oxide boost, releasable external cargo rack to drop supplies, extendable wing slats on the inboard portion of his wings. Had a lake cabin that required wheel landings and takeoff on the water for a portion of those events.

Parking was tight there in winds. He tended to spray paint his plane with others parked nearby so I relocated after 35 years to avoid problems. I do have his STC in my Taylorcraft.

Gary

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?skylight pictures

PA1195.,
Sir excuse my computer skills I sent a message to you when I thought I was on this section ,so hows your weather in Alaska,i have a good friend in Skagway Alaska he said his weather wasn't to bad a couple weeks ago hope it warms up here soon
so I can get to flying again have a great day sir.

Paul

Cubby

[PA1195]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?skylight pictures

Weather's good in Fairbanks...has been in the -30's nights and warms to near 0F days with 11.5 hrs of daylight.

Had a PA-11 for 14 yrs but now another Taylorcraft. Each have their purpose, pleasures, and pitfalls.

I mentioned Greg Clayton only to emphasize that it takes skilled inventors like him to think outside the ordinary box and to improve the art and science of equipment.

Now my question is: Will extending the VG's across the front of my skylight improve lift without causing problems? I've read there's slower landing to be gained, but at what expense? As long as the skylight is well fastened it should remain that way. Early Citabrias had a tendency to loose the skylight under certain condx and become earthward bound.

Not quite the original Topic so I'll refrain from more thread drift.

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

ROBERT,
I have the gear fittings, to fit the tail wheel aircraft gear, to my 1992 F22A ,Taylorcraft do you have these fittings on you F22ATaylorcraft,just curious

Paul.

Robert.,
I was going threw some of the paper work, in my Taylorcraft F22a, Books and found this article, that was in the pages, thought you might like it ,it shows you were correct, that they had thought of making a rear jump seat, at one point and looks like they didn,t carry threw, with it,but probably would have late,r on if the Aircraft had made a lot of money for them,if I ever finish reading all this stuff,i,ll let you know if they ever made mention ,to the two pilots ,that made your trip,i personally wouldn,t tryd it, I think its just to far to swim, if something happened ,any way heres a copy out of my F22A LOG BOOKS FOR YOU have a great day Sir.

Paul.

Cubby

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

Robert.,
ive tryied several times to load the Taylorcraft advertisement and it just will not load frustrating

Paul.

CUBBY

[cubby]

Re: F22 / F22A Airframe differences?

Well I,ll try again to post this Taylorcraft ADVERTISEMENT


Paul

cubby