160 hp F-19

[S2D]

Does anyone have 337 for installing a 160 hp Lycoming in the F-19?
I know one in Alaska was done, looking for another to back up my field approval attempt.
Thanks
Brian

[akndrifter]

Re: 160 hp F-19

I think that is commonly called the Alsworth Conversion. You may want to try to ask them.

[S2D]

Re: 160 hp F-19

Thanks
I'll google it, but not sure who you mean to ask.
Brian

[akndrifter]

Re: 160 hp F-19

I'm not sure which one of them did those conversions, but I may be able to figure it out. If I do I'll let you know.

[akndrifter]

Re: 160 hp F-19

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgstc.nsf/0/726CA3619476E71486256E750054E4AB?OpenDocument

Maybe this is what you are looking for???

Edit- Never mind, that is for a Stinson I believe.

[Robert Bradbury]

Re: 160 hp F-19

Does anyone have 337 for installing a 160 hp Lycoming in the F-19?
I know one in Alaska was done, looking for another to back up my field approval attempt.
Thanks
Brian

You better have the big tanks holding 36 gallons becasue that is the biggest complaint. At 24 gallons with two 6 gallon wings and one 12 gallon nose you
are on reserve in under three hours .

[VictorBravo]

Re: 160 hp F-19

You can switch to an F-22 Taylorcraft, it already has a Lycoming engine mount and the larger fuel tanks you will need. It also has flaps which are very useful. I believe the type certificate allows up to 180 HP. This would be a lot more useful of an airplane, and already has a higher gross weight allowance.

If you figure your time into it you will likely agree it is a lot cheaper than a 160 conversion on a B model, and there are far less compromises you would be making. Not to mention you'll be flying a LOT sooner.

Also, the F models have movable seats and larger baggage compartments.

Come to think of it, you can buy a 180 horsepower Auster "Workmaster" from England and get a very heavy duty bushplane that has everything you want in it already, plus control sticks, plus a skylight, and be flying in the time it takes to ship the aircraft over from England. Check the exchange rate, your dream airplane might already be sitting in a hangar somewhere with a for sale sign on it. Check www.austerclub.org and www.globalplanesearch.com

[S2D]

Re: 160 hp F-19

thanks for all the answers.
Not my aircraft.
Just trying to help a guy out that has it and wants it legal so he can fly it.
has big tanks, 180 mount F-22 cowl skylight etc.

[akndrifter]

Re: 160 hp F-19

I believe a lady that I know, her brother and father did extensive work souping up tcarts. I could give you her phone number if you want.

[Robert Bradbury]

Re: 160 hp F-19

thanks for all the answers.
Not my aircraft.
Just trying to help a guy out that has it and wants it legal so he can fly it.
has big tanks, 180 mount F-22 cowl skylight etc.

Does he have the flaps too? A friend of mine has his F19 with 0-290 1800
Edo floats . He has great performance in the air cruising at 120 but cannot
get into and out of tight spots. He's now looking at a Supercub with 160hp
and flaps so he can drop into and get out of a small lake where he lives at
present. Problem is with the T is that it is so fast once he breaks water he
is at the end of the lake and can barely clear the 50ft trees.

Where is your friend with the big tanks, 180 mount and F-22 cowl ? If you don't mind and a name too if you could.

[S2D]

Re: 160 hp F-19

Does he have the flaps too? A friend of mine has his F19 with 0-290 1800

No flaps.

[Robert Bradbury]

Re: 160 hp F-19

No flaps.

Just thinking about 160 hp on a T. That thing will be a rocket. I wouldn't be surprised if he would cruise at 140 on floats. My friend cruises at 125 with the 125hp and that is with 1800 floats. Wide open yields 135mph and that is
only 125hp. I mean what is the Vne for the T, isn't it 135 ??

Robert

[VictorBravo]

Re: 160 hp F-19

I wouldn't be surprised if he would cruise at 140 on floats. My friend cruises at 125 with the 125hp and that is with 1800 floats. Wide open yields 135mph and that is only 125hp. I mean what is the Vne for the T, isn't it 135 ??

That would be flying in a very unsafe manner, and would probably result in some kind of damage or crash. Taking a 60 year old airplane, doing an average restoration (as opposed to a full skeletal X-ray and metallurgical test), and then flying it on a lot more power at or near the redline speed for extended periods, compounded by the extra airframe stresses from flying on floats, is stupid. I never thought I'd say this, but I hope the FAA or MOT does NOT approve that modification. That would put all the reasonable modifications and common-sense-keeping T-craft owners at serious risk. Sorry, whoever is thinking about that kind of a mod is "playing with a loaded gun while other people's kids are in the room". I think we as a group should oppose this, with my sincere apologies for causing an inconvenience to the guy proposing the modification.

[akndrifter]

Re: 160 hp F-19

I don't believe this is a new mod around these parts. I've not heard of anyone having issues with them, but the redline is there for a good reason. However I'm sure its not that economic. If you want something to go that fast get a Pacer, more room, more useful load, flaps, and lots of parts. And you would probably have about the same into it.

[Robert Bradbury]

Re: 160 hp F-19

That would be flying in a very unsafe manner, and would probably result in some kind of damage or crash. Taking a 60 year old airplane, doing an average restoration (as opposed to a full skeletal X-ray and metallurgical test), and then flying it on a lot more power at or near the redline speed for extended periods, compounded by the extra airframe stresses from flying on floats, is stupid. I never thought I'd say this, but I hope the FAA or MOT does NOT approve that modification. That would put all the reasonable modifications and common-sense-keeping T-craft owners at serious risk. Sorry, whoever is thinking about that kind of a mod is "playing with a loaded gun while other people's kids are in the room". I think we as a group should oppose this, with my sincere apologies for causing an inconvenience to the guy proposing the modification.

I think your a little too late on this one as approval is already done for
the 150hp, they have been flying for 20-30 years . Alsworth conversion
isn't it? The 160 is just a high compression version of the 150 and will
fit on the same mount. Not sure if there would be much red tape . Personally
I feel the C90 or 0-200 on a light plane like the T is best. My mistake was
adding to many bells and whistles . Then again mine is 1020 on 1650 floats
so on wheels I'd be around 875. Thats not too bad really.