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    This is a message (below) that I submitted to the Wikipedia advocacy folks. Two or three times now I have put in the time to edit and fill out the Wikipedia page on Taylorcraft. Although I did not ask permission from this group, I strongly believe that the group would overwhelmingly approve what I added to the existing Wikipedia page.

    Two or three times, SOMEONE has taken the information down, removed CG Taylor's name as the founder and put Harry Ingram's name as the owner, and removed all information about the current company closure. They removed information about Taylorcraft's "checkered history" that I'm sure we all would agree is pretty accurate. Unless I am gravely mistaken, there's only one person on this planet who would be upset at what I wrote or edited on the Taylorcraft Wikipedia page, Dirty Harry himself.

    I took the liberty to assume the majority of this group would support my intent and how I wrote the complaint, so I filled out the form and submitted the following:

    "My problem is a content dispute on the Wikipedia page for Taylorcraft (a type of aircraft similar to the Piper Cub). I am a four-time owner and pilot of Taylorcraft aircraft, and in this matter I am more or less representing a large group of loyal owner/pilot enthusiasts of this type of aircraft.

    Recently I took the liberty to edit the Taylorcraft page with:
    1 more historically accurate information,
    2 putting in the correct name of the company founder,
    3 adding a universally acknowledged historical perspective regarding the company's checkered history, and
    4 adding information on the current closure of the company which is public record.

    My edit was "reverted" twice now (which I believe is in violation of Wikipedia policies for repeated reverting), removing the factually correct information I had included in the process. I attempted to revert back to my original edit, but it has once again been removed.

    I suspect that the person who is removing the information I put on the page is a Mr. Harry Ingram or an associate of his. Ingram is the latest in a long list of failed "owners" who have bankrupted the Taylorcraft company, leaving burned investors and possibly defrauded customers. The "reverted" versions that replaced my edits always listed Ingram as the owner of the company instead of listing C. G. Taylor as the original founder of the company. Mr. Ingram would obviously prefer if the company's failure under his ownership was NOT included on the Wikipedia page.

    To my knowledge, Ingram would be the one, only, sole, singular,exclusive person anywhere in the Taylorcraft community worldwide who would want his name listed as the current failed owner in place of the universally revered founder of the company. Ingram would be the only person who would gain by erasing factually correct public record information about the company's current status. Ingram would be one of only a small handful of previous failed owners who would be offended by the (correct, published in a hardcover history book, and universally accepted) notion that "Taylorcraft has had a long and checkered history..." which I added in my edit.

    I would ask for you to intervene and prevent Mr. Ingram (or whoever is repeatedly reverting this article) from attempting to prevent an accurate article from existing. Once again, I spent the time to edit the Taylorcraft Wikipedia page with historically correct information (which is known to be accurate by the large group of owners and enthusiasts who keep these aircraft flying after 60 years).

    Please feel free to contact the entities that represent the group of owners to verify what I have said here:

    Taylorcraft Foundation (a 501(c)3 organization)
    Forrest Barber, President
    [email protected]

    Taylorcraft Owner's Club
    Bruce Bixler, President
    [email protected]

    Please feel free to post a request for votes or opinions on the Taylorcraft Foundation Discussion Forum
    (via the Forum Administrator Bob Ollerton)
    [email protected]

    My position is simply a strong enthusiast for this specific type of aircraft, an owner and pilot, and someone who wants the Wikipedia page on this aircraft to be informative and accurate.

    Thank you for your intervention in this matter, "
    Taylorcraft : Making Better Aviators for 75 Years... and Counting

    Bill Berle
    TF#693

    http://www.ezflaphandle.com
    http://www.grantstar.net
    N26451 (1940 BL(C)-65) 1988-90
    N47DN (Auster Autocrat) 1992-93
    N96121 (1946 BC-12D-85) 1998-99
    N29544 (1940 BL(C)-85) 2005-08

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    Re: More Taylorcraft problems on Wikipedia

    Good job Bill. You have my vote. Facts are facts and right is right. We have a moral responsibility to educate the masses. Far too many pilots do not realize the contribution C.G. Taylor made to the world of aviation.

    Could you modify the Wikipedia site to include a reference to Chets book the Taylorcraft Story? Nobody can change the information there!
    David and Judy
    TF# 651
    Butterfly Fun Lines
    1941 BF12-65
    N36468
    Grasshopper Fun Lines
    1988 Hatz CB-1
    N83LW

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      • #4
        Re: More Taylorcraft problems on Wikipedia

        Thank you all for keeping things going, I am back from SNF , solving problems, cuting grass and FINALLY bought and had delivered the NEW tractor. Dave she will never be the equal of Betsey but she is nice! I am checking into the wica thing. It is really a bunch of crap that someone thinks they can change history, ther is supposed to be an announcement this week from Harry, Stve Cooner & Mr. Patrick. We will see ,t may ahve already happened. I am going to work the forumn for about two hours today, then have aerial photos, Kent State Memorial on the 4th & National air Race Historian stuff ont he 5th. PLUS Cinco de Mayo!!!!
        keep them straight Bill!!
        Taylorcraft Foundation, Inc
        Forrest A Barber 330-495-5447
        TF#1
        www.BarberAircraft.com
        [email protected]

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