Historical or antique aircraft Category

[Len Petterson]

Ok here we go agin.

EAA tryed it and got shoot down In Canada we tryed Owner Maintinece, got shoot down but was in effect for awhile.
I can understand FAA/DOT 's conserns to a degre but if a builder can look after his or her own plane, but second hand owner of the Experimental/ homebuilt is not allowed.
Here we come to common point.

What is the score with the LSA, is the owner alowed to work on them, if so: What can the owner work on?
We shall remember what an aircraft owner is realy in no different situation when a car owner what does a brake job on a car.

Ok the car can pull over and stop, maybe not in time after bad brakejob! If it happens out on the freeway at 70 Mph and ruch hour!
Today I can purchase a set of brakepad from a parts dealer and install them my self and have the manefarures warranty on them. I know it is simple job, but it is also a testament of the increase in tecnical knowledge among the general puplic.

In many ways an old aircraft, like the Taylorcraft and others, are more comlicated to work on becuase of acesses to the part you have to work on. Not becusae of tecnolgy used in building it.
For examlpe: If I have remove fabric, how do I patch it. Aircraft by it's nature has to be coverd and it limets access
The "old tecnologies" like fabric covering, still used today, is a spesial skill what can be thaught.
A stamp from a course in the subject may is all what is neeeded.
Is this idea doing away with the Aircarft Mechanics trade? To an extent, yes.

This has happend with plummers, electrichans, carpenters, and others, becuase of new simpler to work with matrials, and a higher degree of genreal knowledge among the puplic.
For EX.ABS pipe revolutionazed the plumbing trade.

A given set of minimum skills requerment, experience from similar trades,
Experience from building a experimental aircraft, partisipating in 2 annuals of the category of aircraft you are going towork on.
This things should togheter with a teoretical requierment and having the 43 ---? ( cant rember the rest) on hand in book form. ( I cant take my computer with me to the plane on the tarmack.)
This should alow me to perfom most, not all, maintinece work on the aircraft.
Not all, some of us have never used a tortche, do not understand electicety,
What are your personal limetation, Shall the applicant say: No I cannot weld.
Testing for variuse skills, volontarly exlusions, can be used.
EAA Sweden has a good system see it on there website.
Is these group interested in something like this,
Is it worth working on? What do you all think?
Len Petterson

[cpirrmann]

Re: Historical or antique aircraft Category

Ok here we go agin.


Is this idea doing away with the Aircarft Mechanics trade? To an extent, yes.

This has happend with plummers, electrichans, carpenters, and others, becuase of new simpler to work with matrials, and a higher degree of genreal knowledge among the puplic.

Len Petterson

Len, I whole-heatedly support your ideas, and their could even be training officially offered. I would like to get my A&P (started a few years ago) but the lack of schools geographically and having to work and eat make it virtually impossible onve you've started your life. So, some training courses offered like the workshops they have now would be sufficient. Just need them often and everywhere. This technology isn't even close to as complicated as car repair, it's more technique and accepted methods when you're dealing with our planes.

As to your quoted point, don't worry, I don't see the unemployment lines filled with plumbers and carpenters, etc. There are still plent of people out there who can't change their own brakes or glue PVC together or build new stairs in the basement. There's plenty to go around. But we do need to be removed a level from the same A&P's who maintain 747's and IA's who inspect Gulfstreams.