Headliner - wing root junction

[Joel Severinghaus]

I'm planning to re-do my interior, and I'm trying to decide how to handle the wing roots in the upper corners of the windscreen. Looking at other T-crafts at fly-ins, I've seen that some end the headliner at the top edge of the windshield, with those bullet-shaped metal wing root sections left exposed and painted. I've also seen the wing roots wrapped in the headliner fabric, with fabric grommets as needed around the various struts and brackets. I've also seen a fabric-covered fairing that curved from the headliner out around the wing roots. And various ways of leaving an opening for the control cables up in the corners.

Does anyone know what the headliner to wing root junction looked like originally?

Anyone have a photo of a good-looking way to finish those corners of the interior?

Thanks,

[VictorBravo]

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At the recent Columbia fly-in, another Taylorcraft owner and I compared the visibility of our airplanes from the cockpit. We both had identical windshields and skylights, but there was a huge difference in the overall outward visibility between our airplanes. The difference was the interior pieces covering the control cables and around the upper windshield areas. Taylorcrafts are kind of short on visibility anyway, so whatever you do please pay attention to any interior cosmetic pieces that can reduce your viewing angles.

[Taylor Maid]

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Mine is one of those that cover up the cables and wrap around the top tube in the windshield. THere are strategically placed zippers so it is easy for lubing and inspecting. Just recently we had to tear out the upper right corner for a repair and it was easy to get at and put back in place without screwing it up. We used 1300L glue around the tube and along the upper part of the door it a piece of aluminum that kind of clips the fabric in once you fold it over a time or two and jam it up in there. I will be at Oshkosh in the VAC section, feel free to take a look inside there if you make it and find mine.

--Suzy

[ken hecht]

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I have a drawing or template for the false rib root area, this will cover that opening around the pulley, if interested e-mail me
Ken
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[Joel Severinghaus]

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Suzy,

Thanks for the offer to peer at your cockpit. I plan to be parked at VAC from Saturday or Sunday also, so I'll look for you and your plane. Mine's cream with blue trim, with the ugly peeling vinyl headliner.

I've bought a lovely new wool headliner from Airtex, and it came with two zippers on each front corner for access to those pulleys. I'm going to try to be clever with it and have the placard wording for the trim crank and wing tank fuel transfer valve embroidered in place before installation. And I'll have the windshield removed for cockpit strut painting anyway, so I can get the headliner attached just right with the windshield out of the way.

See you at Oshkosh,

[Taylor Maid]

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Joel...my number is 734-560-7597. I will be there Tuesday at the earliest and not sure how long I am staying...I am getting Oshkosh fever though so I may just get a Wisconsin driver's license while I am there.

Happy Peekings!

--Suzy

[Taylor Maid]

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Hey Joel,

It looks like I am getting talked into camping in GAC with some friends...not what I wanted to do but I think that is where I will be now. ANyways, please still come over and look at the headliner. You have my cell and it isn't that far of a walk once you take the shuttles to the warbird cafe area.
--Suzy

[Joel Severinghaus]

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Suzy,

My cell is 515-202-9977. I'm planning to fly over Saturday morning (tomorrow), trying to beat the rain and the massed Bonanzas arrival. Looking forward to seeing you there.

[Joel Severinghaus]

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Thanks again for everyone's helpful comments, and to several of you for letting me look in your cockpits at Oshkosh. VictorBravo's point about visibility restrictions is well made, and I'm inclined not to install any control cable cover pieces or fairings up in the windshield corners.

I've put a bunch of headliner photos on the gallery:
http://gallery.taylorcraft.org/main....g2_itemId=4475

I'm leaning toward Jim's and Suzy's style, with the headliner fabric wrapped around and glued to the short diagonal tube, leaving a triangular opening for the aileron cables.

[Carl E. Carson]

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I'm really in need of someone to put in/help with my headliner installation. I have a '40, BC-65, in the rebuild I put in the D windows. I ordered a '41 headliner from Airtex and it is beyond me, no experience in that area. I live in Cedar Rapids, Ia. and looking for someone in the midwest. Tom Baker(s) are you interested in visiting with me about this? Others?

Contact me by private post at:

[email protected]

Carl Carson

[taylorcraftbc65]

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Joel,
THANKS for loading the photos of headliners. Mine looks like James Hardie's.
Brie

[taylorcraftbc65]

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Hey guys, I have a question. I looked at Jose Quantinilla's headliner photos, and noticed something. He has a piece of something that has headliner material glued to it that wraps around the vertical tube by the rear of the windscreen. Mine just has the bare tube with the mounting "ears" welded to it. Does anyone have a drawing for the covering? Forrest, do you have the parts for sale? Brie

[Joel Severinghaus]

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Brie,

Wow, way to dredge up an old thread from 2006. You get forum points for using the "search" function to do that, rather than starting a new thread on an old topic!

Jose's plane, as I recall, is a pre-war Deluxe with the extra trim pieces, chrome on the cowling, and wheel spats. The Deluxes apparently have a cover piece that attaches to the window posts, covering the aileron cables.

Helen Brennan in Ohio has been trying to talk me into installing those, but I've resisted because my ship was a plain vanilla BC-12D. (And I'd hesitate to add anything to the cockpit that further restricts my already-restricted visibility, like a half-inch protrusion of aileron cable covers.) But they do look nice and hide the cables. Helen may have drawings to share -- I'll check with her. Let me also look on the CD of L-4 drawings...

[Joel Severinghaus]

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Does anyone know the part number for that "cable cover - front door post - upper" Brie wants? I've been squinting at drawings and parts price lists, but can't locate it.

[taylorcraftbc65]

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Brie,


Jose's plane, as I recall, is a pre-war Deluxe with the extra trim pieces, chrome on the cowling, and wheel spats. The Deluxes apparently have a cover piece that attaches to the window posts, covering the aileron cables.

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Mine has both doors, and a wing tank, so I guess I have the deluxe also. That would make it "proper" to have the covers on my ship I think. Brie