VG's

[Yellow Duck]

Decided to get VG's and give that a try. Think we had a couple of people say they had them. Anyhow ordered a set from Microair in WA. That with the new 74x40 prop and keeping it as light as I can should help. The price now is $485 but will go up next week to $550. Don't know why, guess it is because the market will accept this.

Sitting in my office watching the sun rise 06:30 here in New Iberia LA. Beautiful as was the sunset last night. Be in the 70's today, light winds.

Gone Flying

[crispy critter]

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Lee,
I've flew a couple of t-crafts with the VG's, It really didn't seem to help much. Maybe it was just me??

[Sloanlow]

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Duck

I'm going to install VG's on 43011. My biggest problem is density altitude out here. We do a thing called Cactus Cruising" until we find a thermal that will take us up off the desert floor. Once we get into cool air about 1000 feet the aircraft will perform. Is there such things a gap seals for Taylorcraft?

Light winds is the key word........Next time your looking at the sunset look to see if you see me flying around over here in Big Bend Park.

Jim

[Yellow Duck]

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Jim, I've been looking for you. Have seen you yet. Yesterday was another average day here in Paradise. Low 70's , light winds, and blue skies. What better can you ask for with a T-Craft and your bride, flying Lo & Slo ?

[Acroeric]

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Jim- The Tcraft aileron will not do good if you gap seal them. Their design is to have a gap. . . . .
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[VictorBravo]

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Jim- The Tcraft aileron will not do good if you gap seal them. Their design is to have a gap. . . . .
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What happens to the ailerons with gap seals Eric? I have been thinking about sealign that gap for climb improvement. What have been your experiences?

[Acroeric]

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The Taylorcraft uses frise type ailerons- they rely on the gap for airflow (actually suction)- it will drastically slow your roll rate and make the ailerons heavier. Ever notice that the leading edge protrudes into the slipstream and the higher deflections? This helps tame adverse yaw and acts to lessen the pressure one feels when deflecting them. Airflow that can not pass between the cove and aileron creates a pressure point and is not desirable. Gap seals may speed you up a bit but the ailerons would not benefit.

[shawn coleman]

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please post you resulsts with yhe vg considering them as well
shawn

[dannys]

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finished a rebuild here in anchorage and put on the C-85 with the 0200 guts electrical with the short mount and a set of v/g's
never flew one before but with just me and the nose tank full ( I wiegh 200lbs) plane weigs in at 943 lbs t/o in less then 250 feet and stall speed no power about 33mph
with power on it stalls at about 28 mph
what do they stall at without v/g's

[shawn coleman]

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my f-19 stalls at about 39 mph power off and around 35 with power on give or take depending on weight, my mechanics spoke with a dealer out of Boise sells micro aerodynamics v gs and he said for the tcraft you're not necessarily going to notice a stall a stall speed reduction directly on your airspeed. But what you will notice is a definite safety improvement he said during a stall with the control's fullback you can put in full aileron to the left and right and the plane does exactly what is asked and nothing more .

I know my plane does not behave that way during a stall. So from that standpoint, it would definitely be an improvement like the dealer said. If you fly your tcraft by the numbers don't bother buying the vgs but if you fly your plane to the edge of its abilities, and by the way it feels. The vortex generators are definite must.
shawn coleman

[Yellow Duck]

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Shawn, I purchased a set of VG's from the guy (Joa) in Idaho, pretty cheaply made of plastic type material. No templates, or instructions, no STC. So field approval on certified would be required.

He also promised, (you can S.Can that promise) to refund my moeny if not satisified. Well I returned them more that six weeks ago, no money yet. Each time I call or write. The checks in the mail. Guess, I lost $200.

For Your Info.

[shawn coleman]

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Thanks for the information, but I'm sure this is not the same person you're thinking of. I forget his first name, but his last name is Hubble and not sure if he still does but he used to fly Formula One's down at Reno, and from what I have been told. He is pretty much up on the aerodynamics and everything else related to aviation. If I remember correctly, I think his name is Gary anyway, he flies out of the Caldwell Idaho Airport and it just so happens that last week. I discovered he was a dealer for micro aerodynamics vgs I have not spoke with him personally. I just know that he said. As far as a tcraft you're not going to see much of a noticeable difference on the airspeed. but did say you're stall handling would be 100% improved. I know that when I stall my airplane. If you throw in some aileron at the stall. It will pop right into a spin and if the vg eliminate this then I think that would be a plus. What does everybody else think?

shawn coleman
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[zero.one.victor]

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Unless he can get you a discount I'd probably get them direct from Micro, why bother with a middleman?
Their website has prices.

https://www.microaero.com

[Yellow Duck]

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Eric, this is where I purchased mine. Paid $465, I think or somewhere in that area. Very pleased with the quality and material they sent. I have also called them several times and they have been very helpful. FYI

[VictorBravo]

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I know Gary Hubler from my days as a Formula One racer. He is a straight shooter, knows a lot about airplanes, and has been around them for a lot of years. Good guy. I'd do business with him in a heartbeat. He s a crop duster or something by trade. If he said the VG's do X, y and Z, then I'd expect them to do whatever he says. Just my two cents.