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    Guys I need paperwork that has A VALID AIRWORTHNESS CERT for a BC-65
    Thankyou ! Please call me at 803-957-6066 as my e-mail is screwed up. I can see private messages sent to me on this site or just a response to this post. Thank you
    Last edited by Jim Herpst; 06-25-2005, 10:10.

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    Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

    Jim, I think you called. Sorry no papers Chet

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    • #3
      Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

      Chet,
      Thank you for responding anyway.

      Best Regards,
      Jim

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      • #4
        Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

        I had the experience of the FAA declaring my Airworthness Certificate invalid because it appeared to be a copy! not the original as required.

        Simply went to the FSDO, provided mfg info (as on the copy), bill of sale, registration papers. Said original was destroyed or missing. They typed up a new certificate on the spot.

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        • #5
          Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

          My son-in-law bought a L-4 (military J-3) I know wrong brand, that needed a total rebuild. The only paper work he got was the old military records. We checked with Okahoma City and they did not have a record of ever issuing an Airworthiness Certificate to this airplane. We got ahold of an FAA Approved DAR who told use to rebuild it as it was certificated and he would issue us an Airworthiness. We did and he did. We flew it on March 3rd.
          Hope this helps.

          Don
          Last edited by Guest; 06-29-2005, 13:47.

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          • #6
            Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

            Good info back guys. Entertaining too on the FAA operation in the "United" states.Unfortunantly my understanding is that our local FSDO here in SC is not as accomodating as your stories relate as it comes to simply typing up new airworthness certificates . This is REGARDLESS of what you present them. (Someone please prove me wrong if you have other info on our helpful local operation).
            Regardless let me re- phrase my plea. I apparently placed too much emphasis on the VALID Airworthness certificate issue.

            Anyone please. I am seeking PAPERWORK for a 1940 BC-65 TAYLORCRAFT emphasis _BC__BC-65. I also will neeed a valid airworthness certificate to go along with it.

            Thank you all and I appreciate the responses to date.
            Last edited by Jim Herpst; 06-29-2005, 18:09.

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            • #7
              Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

              In the early days aircraft were inspected and issued airworthiness certificates each year. Get a compleet set of your aircraft records on CD-rom from the FAA. in there you should find a copy of one or more AW cert. for your tail#/SN plane. Use that info to get a permanent copy issued(if the plane is in airwortht condition as inspected by a DAR). When I get a chance I will post a copy of one of my early AW cert. and inspection check list found in my FAA records CD-rom. I must have 10 or more copies to choose from.

              IF you have a project plane with no logs and or paperwork, that is a whole nother problem.

              Jason
              N43643
              Jason

              Former BC12D & F19 owner
              TF#689
              TOC

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              • #8
                Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

                Jason . Thank You for the reply. I understand better the ways to deal with this issue under given given circumstances. Stilll My needs are different ...... and you elude to this partially. I am interested in "building up a BC " again emphasis on BC not a BL or BF . Now some pieces of the puzzle may come together for those who understand what all can be be done with a BC. Whole lots more !!!

                My plea still stands for a set of papers for a BC-65 (prefer 1940) Taylorcraft. As far as the airworthyness certificate goes yes I will need a valid one to go with it.

                Thanks again all. If any of ya here in your travels and discoveries get a line on a basket case BC-65 please let me know. One ratty enough may be of interest. I like the early ones best.

                Meanwhile I continue work on my 1940 BL clip wing. The OTHER 1940 sits and waites patiently .............. Its cried out that it does not want to be a BL !!

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                • #9
                  Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

                  Jim, I have COMPLETE paperwork , logs, and a rebuild project I need to move. 1946 BC-12D. Gilberti conversion, yada,yada,yada. Call me, 952-412-8326. Also 1946 J-3 project for others looking. 85 Cont. on T-bird, 65 cont. on Cub or whatever combination. Regards, Pete
                  West.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

                    Pete thanks. I will be calling you. I still really want BC-65 paperwork(or a really rough 1940 BC-65 project with all the papers)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

                      The BC-65 is all well and good, but for whatever it's worth the little popsicle stick trim tab isn't as effective as a regular one. And the visibility is bad enough already on any of them, but with an original pre-war BC you have three more small steel tubes in your field of vision left over from the days of multi-panel windshields. When you need to patch or replace fabric, you'll have to sit there and rib stitch, instead of just zip-zap in the Martin wire. And the door opening is even a little less convenient, if that were at all possible. They are a little lighter though.

                      Did I mention that the gross weight is fifty pounds less as well?

                      But you probably knew all that and would gladly sign up for all those endearing qualities anyway, didn't you?

                      We are a strange bunch
                      Taylorcraft : Making Better Aviators for 75 Years... and Counting

                      Bill Berle
                      TF#693

                      http://www.ezflaphandle.com
                      http://www.grantstar.net
                      N26451 (1940 BL(C)-65) 1988-90
                      N47DN (Auster Autocrat) 1992-93
                      N96121 (1946 BC-12D-85) 1998-99
                      N29544 (1940 BL(C)-85) 2005-08

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                      • #12
                        Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

                        Jim,

                        I may be able to assist you in your research. All I will need is your N-number from there I can trace you aircraft history.

                        To be able to get original airworthiness certificate the local FSDO will need:

                        1. Your original airframe logbook showing the certification.
                        2. Any documents that show your aircraft had a certificate.

                        What ever you do never copy a Airworthiness certificate. If you read the front of the Airworthiness certificate it states do not copy.

                        The FSDO can perform a comformity inspection and based on that issue you a new certificate. On the aircraft airframe there are certain manufacuture marking and these marking are what the FAA will be looking for.

                        In the past some owner have purchased a data plates and built an aircraft around the data plate. The problem is the FAA tracks data plates when aircraft are destroyed. If one turns up on a aircraft that owner may never get a Standard Certificate, but may be issued and Experimental Certificate.

                        Stache

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                          Re: Wanted Dead or Alive:

                          Stache , Thank you. You and many others are giving helpful advice . I am happy this thread may be helping others with the advice given . I know it is directed to attempt to help me . Anyone responding has my sincere gratitude.

                          My request in starting this thread remains the same.



                          I need complete paperwork for a 1940 BC-65 . Yes and this can also include a rough project parts plane.

                          Thank you.

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