Spin characteristics/recovery in a Tcraft

[mhorowit]

Notice: I promise not to attempt these maneuvers without an instructor

Once I get my engine problems sorted out, I'd like to try a wingover. Thinking it over, it might be a good idea to learn how to recover from a spin before I attempt anything more exciting than straight-ahead stalls, so I will get an instructor to show me how to recover

Some a/c recover by neutralizing controls, then rudder in opposition to the spin, followed by recovering from the dive. Other a/c apparently recover with simply relaxing all pressure.

How does the BC-12D recover?

[Yellow Duck]

Re: Spin characteristics/recovery in a Tcraft

Like any other aircraft (mostly) Stop the spin with opposit rudder, then push the yoke foward ( to about neutral) to break the stall, then recover from the dive by pulling back, but not so hard as to go into another secondary stall and another spin. ( this one will get your cookies).

But really pretty benin, like most of these types aircrafts.

Get lots of altitude and have fun. If all else fail. Just let go and it will recover on it's on.

[flyguy]

Re: Spin characteristics/recovery in a Tcraft

Mike,
Find you a aerobatic instructor and get him/her to show you a precision spin entry. It is a stall with a LITTLE power and left rudder slowly in. Hold it from rolling left with right aileron (cross controls.) Very light on everything, no need to horse anything around. The nose will be slightly up. When it breaks pull back the throttle and let everything else go neutral. (THEN, NOT LATER.)
A BC12 will roll over rather spectacularly and turn 180 degrees, more or less, and recover going downhill and all you do is pull straight back as required.
You will get a pretty good zoom and if you add a little power after you are going uphill again you will be right back at your original altitude, but headed the opposite direction. Then you can do it all over again. Great spin entry practice.
I STRONGLY suggest you do not try to learn this by yourself, because it does seem like things happen very quickly and it may rattle you.
You guys who already do spins, try this one, it is my understanding that it is a normal competition spin entry, and it is great fun.
Darryl

[VictorBravo]

Re: Spin characteristics/recovery in a Tcraft

After you practice the competition aerobatic version, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE practice the "accidental spin entry". That's the one that gets you a dinner reservation with Elvis.

Have a good instructor teach you several types of "incipient spins" and accidental half-spins. At altitude, try a forward slip, say right rudder and left aileron and get the airplane too slow. Do the old standard base-to-final overshoot (at 3000 feet) and the accidental spin that comes from that. Do a tight turn at minimum flying speed and try to roll out of the turn with opposite aileron, and see how you can stall one wingtip while the rest of the airplane is still flying.

It has been a while since I did these things, and it is high on the list of things I want to do once I get my airplane back flying next week.

Bill

[Victor Gisclair]

Loss a good friend Today

I loss a good friend today. He was taking off in his KR2 that he builded. He had flew it once before for 17 min. around the South lafourche airport. (L49). He took off today today and spun it in at the end of the runway. The plane burn and he didn't get out.
Vic
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[Karl Rigdon]

Re: Spin characteristics/recovery in a Tcraft

The Taylorcraft is one of the best airplanes for spin training. I also am of the opinion that every one flying the taylorcaft should have spin training in this airplane. A properly rigged Taylorcraft will enter a spin from a power off stall easily by using full elevator into the break then step on the pedal in the direction you want to go. In the spin hold full up elevator and full rudder. During recovery simply release the backpressure and apply opposite rudder and recover. My Taylorcraft spins nose down and does not tend to oscillate. Recovery is positive and less than 1/2 turn. If you apply too much forward elevator you can end up with going past vertical and getting into negtitive "Gs". Properly done you will not gain much if any speed and recovery can be done without going past cruise speed. As in any spin recovery watch for a secondary.
Many years ago a friend, also a very experienced Tcraft pilot, and I were on a late afternoon ride. During final to my 1000ft runway at home I was high and entered a hard slip. As I recovered from the slip and assumed a normal pitch for short final I heard the wing fabric rumble which is the only message my airplane will give that it is about to stall. Remember airplane will stall at any airspeed. Angle of attack is the key. We were sinking like a brick and I was showing over 60 on the air speed. I broke the pitch slightly and it was all over. My passenger almost beat me to making the pitch correction, as he also knew what was about to happen. I saw him reaching for the right side control wheel.
Forrest, tell the list about the longest word used by instructors.

[Forrest Barber]

Re: Spin characteristics/recovery in a Tcraft

As always Karl you are right on!!!! I would really suggest that ANYONE wanting to play with Unusual attitudes ( Now call upset training) or some such nonsense......get PROPER training.
WE do it here in Alliance ( 2D1) www.barberaircraft.com . Here in Ohio I have lost real good people to IMPROPER training and to this new "upset" training.....

Oh yeah the longest word in the Instructors Vocabulary, that WOULD BE: HOLYJESUSCHRSITWHATINTHEHELLDIDYOUDOTHATFOR?

The other phrases I have used for 40 years are : More right rudder!! ; Pull BACK!! and my favorite; Sure, I take Cash!