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    just wondering if anyone has any info on a edo 1400 installation on bc12

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    Re: edo 1400 installation

    see this and do a search for EDO 1400 here.
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    • #3
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      I was brief last eve when I posted above. Try a search here for "EDO 1400", "floats" and similar. What are you looking for? They were approved via the Type Certificate Data Sheet I linked above by Taylorcraft. If you need pictures there's a Taylorcraft in Fairbanks that has a set installed.

      That plane was in Fairbanks at Chena Marina for a bit I believe. Looks like it has float fittings and pulley brackets installed.

      Gary
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      • #4
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        i have done plenty of searching with not much luck except for people compareing performance
        probly gonna pull measrements of dicks plane the floats have pa11 rigging and i have a set of tcraft float blocks
        it seems weird to me that the they are on my type cert but cant find much info info on the 1400 install
        kenmore pdf arent much help would call ed peck but im workin 24/7

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        • #5
          Re: edo 1400 installation

          Originally posted by N43617 View Post
          i have done plenty of searching with not much luck except for people compareing performance
          probly gonna pull measrements of dicks plane the floats have pa11 rigging and i have a set of tcraft float blocks
          it seems weird to me that the they are on my type cert but cant find much info info on the 1400 install
          kenmore pdf arent much help would call ed peck but im workin 24/7
          What do you need to install EDO 1400 floats? Make a list. Call Ed peck with any questions regarding part size and fits in my experience. If you need dimensions I can measure them off a local Taylorcraft on 1400's, but so can Dick Smith.

          Install requires proper strut length to create center of gravity and angle of incidence of the floats to the fuselage per EDO/Taylorcraft TCDS, strut to fuselage attach fittings, and then water rudder to air rudder cables and pulleys plus fuselage brackets. You have the fuselage and brackets I believe.

          Nobody works 24/7. Give that BS up and get a positive approach to your project one step at a time. Contact Ed and Dick and proceed.

          Gary
          N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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          • #6
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            i need the strut dimensions and you right its an exageration im not workin24/7 my approach is a positive one your comin off negitive to say it nicely

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            • #7
              Re: edo 1400 installation

              your attitude is BS

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              • #8
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                You might want to keep it on wheels until you have time to install the floats. Sounds like your schedule is full and engineering a float installation takes some time. The people listed can assist you with technical information, but end the end you will need to do all of the installation leg work.
                There should be a shop that can do the installation for you, which might be an option for your busy schedule.
                EO

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                • #9
                  Re: edo 1400 installation

                  The most straightforward approach would be to contact Eddie Peck (http://peckaero.ca) and see if he has or knows of a set to Taylorcraft struts that could be exchanged. I've met him in Fairbanks and have dealt via e-mail and phone for several float projects and found him very helpful.

                  The problem with the EDO 1400 Taylorcraft rigging I'm familiar with is that the struts are a three-piece affair with riveted ends. They fit special deck plates and fuselage fittings. Unlike simple drilled to length streamline tubing used on later floats, the ends would have to be un-rivited and massaged in or out to match if that's required. The pulley clusters are common size and the PA-11 tie-wires can be lengthened with metal tabs if needed for the wider Taylorcraft fuselage.

                  Edit: The local EDO 1400's appear to have restored struts with upper and lower ends reinstalled by one of the previous owners/A&P/IA. The plane used to park next to me a few years back. The bottom fitting is round stock with a drilled hole to fit the float deck fittings, and the upper is the typical EDO dual-flanged ears to fit the block that attaches to the clamp-on or welded fuselage fittings. See Post #12 for pictures.

                  Gary
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                  • #10
                    Re: edo 1400 installation

                    thanks gary i compared the float struts with dick today and am going to duplicate his install i am very busy fishing but i also have an abundance of resources her and dick is on the same lake so my goal is to get this project done and start flying to work at least a couple days a week ill post a pic or two as i go forward

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                    • #11
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                      I'll take some pics today of EDO 1400 struts and post. Probably the same as Dick's but may differ. The installer told me he had to re-rig the plane when he owned it and it was parked nearby. I never paid attention to the dimensions or materials.

                      I guess I should do the same pics for my EDO 1320's as it'd help to have close up examples of how they get installed. Lots of panoramic views available but the factory float installation prints and dimensions are rare to unavailable it appears.

                      Eddie Peck has dimensions for lots of struts and fittings plus pictures as well.

                      Hope the fish show up. News reports of in stream closures for Cook Inlet make it sound like a poor year for some salmon species.

                      Gary
                      Last edited by PA1195; 06-27-2018, 17:19.
                      N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                      • #12
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                        Here's some pics of EDO 1400 floats installed on a Taylorcraft. They appear to be restored struts and possibly original fittings, and use AN hardware for attaching the strut end fittings instead of large rivets. Serial numbers are stamped on the struts, but I didn't record them or measure the strut length. I can do that if requested.

                        Note the parts and orientation. The tail has a glider tow hook so the pilot can tie off to the shore and release the plane from the cockpit after the engine is started. Note the metal strap extensions to the cross tie wires to allow for proper fitting.

                        The rear fuselage fitting is a bolt on unit. See Taylorcraft TCDS A-696 Item 205 for factory clamp on fittings. Mine with 1320's are welded-on Taylorcraft parts and I've also seen available Atlee Dodge fittings welded to that longeron: http://www.fadodge.com/weld-on-aft-float-fittings/

                        Gary
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                        • #13
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                          thanks for the pics different float blocks and a couple small things very helpful if you can measure and post the length of struts

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                            Originally posted by N43617 View Post
                            thanks for the pics different float blocks and a couple small things very helpful if you can measure and post the length of struts
                            Ok on length will go there today when I check my plane and walk the dog. I assume you need float fitting to strut bolt center to upper block strut bolt center?

                            That's the normal way to measure. If yours are too long the upper two tang fitting and micarta block spacer can be moved in at about 3/4" steps as that's the typical spacing for the four fasteners. They can also be extended out the same 3/4" by using three of the four strut holes. Note on the floats there's sometimes small square spacers used to fine tune the length via stacking them.

                            If that doesn't work Eddie has the tapered strut blank material to restore yours into the correct dimensions. That's what the pics I took did. Do you need more pics close in or ???. Once the plane goes in the water that may be difficult.

                            Gary
                            Last edited by PA1195; 06-28-2018, 12:03.
                            N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                            • #15
                              Re: edo 1400 installation

                              Not really related to the thread but what is that in picture 3 beyond the rudder connecting bar under the tail? Is that a banner tow hook?
                              Jeff Lowrey
                              1946 BC-12D N44239

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